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2025 India–Pakistan diplomatic crisis

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This article is an undiscussed fork of an already existing 2025 Pahalgam attack#Response. There have been diplomatic crises between India and Pakistan since the first Kashmir war, however, this is the first time this article is being created. Koshuri ^(グ) 12:01, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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merge back This does not appear to be a separate thing from a response to the attack and is hardly so large that it needs to be taken out of that contest. Mangoe (talk) 12:07, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose , this crisis is especially noteworthy in that the Indus water treaty which remained valid despite the 1971 and 1999 wars has been suspended, both nations have expelled attachees and diplomats and civilians have been ordered to leave, moreover the Shimla agreement which solidified LOC as the de facto border too has been suspended, moreover skirmishes have been taking place along the LOC and indian aircraft carrier has been deployed in the Arabian sea. This crisis has been the largest and most notable since the 2019 one. Hence it wouldn't fall under WP: REDUNDANTFORK provided significant coverage in WP:RS which also solidifies it's notability. 𐤌𐤋𐤊 Waleed (

) 12:49, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The response to the Pahalgam Attack was made by the Indian government, resulting in the Diplomatic Crisis between India and Pakistan. Hence, these are sequential but different topics, and any further events or escalations in tensions between the countries shall be put in detail in this article rather than mentioning the full details on the Pahalgam Attack article. So, this article should not be pushed for deletion, atleast till the tensions between India and Pakistan de-escalate. Idiot1729 (talk) 12:15, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notable event not entirely covered by the response section of 2025 Pahalgam attack. Ecrusized (talk) 13:09, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Jassar

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The article is excessively based primary sources and original research and is possibly a nationalist pov pushing. Most of these sources seem to be written by Pakistani authors who are known for their Nationalist agenda. Therefore it fail WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV and WP:V Mithilanchalputra (Talk) 07:31, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. It was a minor skirmish which doesn't warrant a separate page. It is part of the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:30, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agreeing with above its a minor battle WP:notability with citations being non neutral —- Jabba550
Draftify. Draftify it, Ill work on it later and submit via AfC. 𝗭𝗲𝗽𝗵𝘆𝗿 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 13:17, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-Mughal war (1686–1690)

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The war is poorly covered in qualitative sources, The contents in the Events section is mostly filled with negotiations with little to no coverage for this war. Failing WP:GNG. Shakakarta (talk) 15:46, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: This article is largely unsourced. I tried to search this topic on google books but couldn't find anything substantial. Dympies (talk) 15:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy keep and close - Misleading nomination. Gazillions of sources are around that have significantly written about this war.[1][2] [3]Abhishek0831996 (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be so frenzied. 'Gazillions of sources' yet the last two are almost unreliable and first is a WP:NEWSORG tertiary source. Try finding reliable sources. Shakakarta (talk) 17:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Print article is written by an historian. That said, all of those sources are reliable. They establish WP:GNG. Recommend you to take back your misleading nomination. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 01:59, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: [4][5][6] There seems to be plenty of coverage of the war. The argument made above is extremely vague. It obviously isn't a straight failure of WP:GNG. The unsourced portions are also irrelevant because WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Aintabli (talk) 23:37, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How did you decide there is plenty of coverage when you only showcased some passing sort keys mentions of "Anglo-Mughal wars" through the engines? Please cite two books having more than 1-2 pages of coverage. Shakakarta (talk) 05:18, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: But may need improvement. Somajyoti 10:52, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There is a mountain of coverage about this war.

Hunt, Margaret R. (2017). "The 1689 Mughal Siege of East India Company Bombay: Crisis and Historical Erasure". History Workshop Journal (84). Oxford University Press: pp.149–169. ISSN 1363-3554. JSTOR 48554769. {{cite journal}}: |pages= has extra text (help)
Hunt, Margaret R (1 October 2017). "The 1689 Mughal Siege of East India Company Bombay: Crisis and Historical Erasure". History Workshop Journal. 84: 149–169. doi:10.1093/hwj/dbx034. ISSN 1363-3554.
Refai, G. Z. (1977). "Sir George Oxinden and Bombay, 1662–1669". The English Historical Review. XCII (CCCLXIV): 573–581. doi:10.1093/ehr/XCII.CCCLXIV.573. ISSN 0013-8266.
Hunt, Margaret R. (2022). "An English East India Company Ship's Crew in a Connected Seventeenth-Century World" (PDF). Itinerario. 46 (3): 333–344. doi:10.1017/S0165115322000274. ISSN 0165-1153.
Seshan, Radhika; Shimada, Ryuto (5 January 2023). "The Safavid Mission to Siam and the Indian Ocean World in the Late Seventeenth Century". In Morikawa, T. (ed.). Connecting the Indian Ocean World: Across Sea and Land. London: Routledge India. doi:10.4324/9781003362487. ISBN 978-1-003-36248-7.

CharlesWain (talk) 13:38, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tanzeel Altaf

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. Fails WP:NSPORTS.

It seems Altaf later became a lower-league cricket player in England but I don't see significant coverage of Altaf as such in the reports around this. Just the usual passing-mentions. (PS - this is the last Cricket bio I'll be nominating for AFD in this series of Lugnuts cricket bios that were all created within a matter of minutes on 15 November 2015 and have never been improved on since). FOARP (talk) 10:53, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete this is a stub with no sources other then the standerd stats and no info other then a name and a dob obvious delete Scooby453w (talk) 15:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:38, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Junaid Nadir

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. No credible assertion of notability under WP:NSPORT. I see some passing mentions in match reports and an interview on Sky Sports (which is not an independent source since it's him that's talking, and doesn't contribute to notability). FOARP (talk) 10:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moed Ahmed

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Masscreated LUGSTUB with no credible assertion of notability under WP:NSPORTS. FOARP (talk) 10:40, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nasir Ahmed (Pakistani cricketer)

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. The highly generic name makes this one practically impossible to even verify beyond the Cricinfo link (and Cricinfo isn't always that reliable) but there is no evidence of anything beyond passing mentions in match reports that do not satisfy WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:NSPORTS as the only claim to notability is participation. FOARP (talk) 10:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:37, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Farhan Iqbal

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. No evidence of an WP:NSPORTS pass. FOARP (talk) 10:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wajihuddin

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. The existence of this article casts serious doubt on Cricinfo as a source, since "Wajihuddin" is essentially a surname, with anyone having this name typically being referred to as Wajihuddin Ahmed or Mohammed Wajihuddin. It is entirely possible that the Wajihuddins referred to in the reports collected on Cricinfo are not the same person.

Fails WP:NSPORTS as there is no significant coverage in reliable sources and the only claim to notability is participation-based. FOARP (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, don't think redirect is possible here. Vestrian24Bio 07:35, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emmad Ali

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. No sign of significant coverage anywhere of the kind need to pass WP:NSPORTS, just passing mentions in match-reports. For the avoidance of doubt WP:NSPORTS2022 deprecated participation-based claims to notability (i.e., ones based simply on having played in certain games or for certain teams). FOARP (talk) 10:07, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:34, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Hamza

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Masscreated LUGSTUB. Sole claim to notability is playing for Lahore. Having possibly one of the most generic names possible in Pakistan makes this one difficult to assess. Presumably this is Mohammed Hamza Akbar but I don't see anything but brief mentions in match reports and on databases for them. No sign of WP:SIGCOV. FOARP (talk) 10:02, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or redirect to an appropriate list of players if possible. Vestrian24Bio 07:34, 25 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Al-Qaeda guest houses, Faisalabad

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Following the successful Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Qaeda safe houses, Kabul, nominating related articles that fails the same criteria. Random hodgepodge of references to random locations. Fails WP:OR and WP:SYNTH and utterly lacks focused WP:SIGCOV to establish WP:RS. Longhornsg (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC) I am also nominating the following related pages:[reply]

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Delete - Original research. Much of the sourcing is from the files of the US Department of Defense. User Geo Swan who created these, is permanently banned by the community, from editing the English Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 03:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Agree with the above rationale for deletion...Ngrewal1 (talk) 22:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sahar Hashmi

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Back at AfD after the first resulted in speedy deletion. Back in the mainspace and while I attempted to clean up (even moved to draft to allow for cleanup but that was objected to) but there is nothing useful to create the page. For NACTOR, a person is not inherently notable for two lead roles - they still need the significant coverage showing such. Here, the references are unreliable, some based on the publication and the rest based on being non-bylined churnalism. CNMall41 (talk) 00:41, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: 2 lead (ergo significant) roles in notable series, Zulm and Mann Mast Malang, thus meeting WP:NACTOR that states that actors "may be considered notable if" they had significant roles in notable productions. To pass WP:NACTOR, coverage is only needed to verify the importance of the roles in the notable productions. No notability guideline warrants "inherent notability" on WP: all of them, including WP:GNG mention a "presumption" of notability of some sort (presumed/may/likely, etc). See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ali Raza (actor), an AfD that I link here not for its outcome nor potential disagreements between given users but because it contains an extensive discussion about WP:NACTOR and WP:SNGs in general. In a nutshell: stating that subjects meeting any of the specific notability guidelines about notability "must first" (or "should also") meet GNG is an erroneous (albeit common) interpretation of what the guideline says. Meeting given specific requirements for notability can be considered sufficient, per consensus; that is why such guidelines exist; when the requirements of the applicable guideline are met, it can be agreed upon that the article may be retained. By the same token, those who don’t agree are obviously free to express their views but meeting specific requirements can be considered a good and sufficient reason to retain any page; in other words, in such cases, subjects don't need to also meet the general requirements. Even meeting them does not guarantee "inherently" an article, anyway.-Mushy Yank. 01:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Few things. The first is that although the AfD you linked here shows your contention that NACTOR is met with two main/lead roles, it also shows a divide amongst editors on how to interpret that. Note it closed as No Consensus with the closing admin noting that editors were divided in the assessment of NACTOR. However, the AfDs here and here where you asserted the same resulted in delete. While this does not establish consensus, it does show that editors do not share the same assessment. Note, I am not saying she must meet WP:GNG. I am saying she meets neither. Second, NACTOR is not met with two roles with "coverage is only needed to verify the importance of the roles in the notable productions." In fact, it says "meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included." Here, the sources are junk. They are non-bylined coverage similar to WP:NEWSORGINDIA, churnalism, websites like Celebrity Networth, or are otherwise unreliable. If someone is worthy of notice, you would think they would have more than this type of simple coverage. It would be more significant where they would meet WP:NBASIC. Finally, one of the shows you claim is a notable series, you actually redirected based on notability. You only reverted in March of 2025 to help support your contention in the first AfD. Both shows I think are marginally notable at best as they also contain the same type of unreliable sourcing, although I will not nominate either during this AfD so as not to give the appearance of WP:DISRUPTIVE. --CNMall41 (talk) 05:37, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I already replied to all this in the other AfD I linked precisely for that purpose, and in the precedent discussion about this actress. See there. -Mushy Yank. 07:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I see a pass of WP:NACTOR per Mushy Yank. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:07, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nemrah Ahmed Khan

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The article is about author. I have searched about the subject but didn't find significant coverages.. That can pass WP:GNG or WP:AUTHOR. Although I did come across a few mentions about the person, they were news-related and not about the work for which the person is known as an author. Dam222 (talk) 20:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I am trying to find sources, not easy when I do not read Urdu. However, it looks like she may have had more than one bestseller - Mus'haf as noted (but not yet sourced) in the article, and Jannat Kay Pattay, mentioned in this [7] and this [8]. I will try to find better sources. I note too that on the Talk:Nemrah Ahmed Khan page, there is mention of other Romanised spellings of her name, including Nimra Ahmad. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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