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According to leaks based on an Italian site accidentally publishing the full synopsis ahead of time, this show will be a development of the alternate UC timeline where Zeon won. Do I understand correctly that we cannot write anything about this until it is officially confirmed? Solaire the knight (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the first new UC television show since Victory because Unicorn RE:0096 was a broadcast television show in ~2018. The editor who wants this line in there tried to account for this by saying it was the first "completely new" one since Victory, but at that point what is the purpose of the statement? What does it add to this article by excluding Unicorn?

Additionally, the show is an alternate universe, so it is not even a continuation of the UC timeline at all. This is artificial trivia with no actual connection to Victory; there is no good reason for this statement to be in the article. lethargilistic (talk) 12:24, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because this is the first completely new TV inclusion in the original UC Timline? The text you remove in itself contains the answer to your question. And I have already answered you that the show you mentioned is a recomplilation, and not a completely new show. You just repeated this argument again after my answer to you. Not to mention the fact that I find it strange, that you perceive the recomplilation of the old series much more seriously than the full-fledged alternative route of the original UC show. Secondly, the text did not contain anything about a direct continuation. It was only about the UC timline itself. And I am more than sure that we will have no problems to find a source for such text in the anime media that write about the announcement. Eh, one way or another, I think that it’s easier for us to ask a question in the discussion of one of the thematic projects. Because otherwise it will simply be a endless struggle of opinions. Solaire the knight (talk) 12:53, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

But it is not in the timeline relevant to Victory at all. We know that the show takes place in an alternate universe. But even if it was in the same timeline as Victory, I think this is an WP:ENCYCLOPEDIC problem. Whether or not some version of this fact is true does not automatically mean it belongs in the article because Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Manipulating "first X since Y" to insert a reference to Victory does not improve the article. For that matter, "First X since Unicorn" wouldn't improve the article either. lethargilistic (talk) 15:30, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No one says that this is a direct continuation. You yourself mention that the text spoke of an alternative route. This is first. Secondly, this addition is obviously value, since the new full-fledged TV shows in the UC timline, even in its alternative version, have not been released for many years. Including due to the fact that Sunrise for many years focused on AU. There is nothing manipulative or not related to the topic of the article. Solaire the knight (talk) 16:52, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And so, should I understand your silence as a rejection of further discussion? If so, then I will turn to the participants of the thematic project to resolve this. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:51, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Who made this edit? What is their source for the aforementioned original franchise creator being credited on this page as a co-creator of this anime? I certainly can't find any other source stating that Tomino is behind G-QuuuuuuX. Ifnsman (talk) 22:14, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's just the credits of the show, I think. It should probably be something more like "Based on characters created by Tomino" but I'm not sure any anime have ever done that. Maybe we could make the editorial decision to do that for clarification if sources can be found to justify that. silviaASH (inquire within) 23:25, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The official credits for Gquuuuuux credit Tomino as "original story".[1] If a source can be found expressly confirming he is not personally involved with the production and what his involvement is, if any, we can probably add a footnote clarifying it to readers. As it is, though, I can't think of how to resolve this, this seems like a flawed bit of official information we have to live with reflecting.

This seems standard, also: it was a major point of contention on the RWBY: Ice Queendom page a while back to list Monty Oum as having a story credit given that Oum was deceased long before the anime entered production. Of course, in an American show it'd typically say "based on x created by original person" in cases like this, but they don't do that with Japanese franchises I think. Witch from Mercury also credits Tomino, though I'm certain he had nothing to do with that show either. Even the most recent Lupin III anime credits Monkey Punch as creator, even though he's also long deceased. I think that this is just how Japanese credits go. We'll probably be dealing with discrepancies like this for eternity, or until crediting standards change to be more accurate. silviaASH (inquire within) 23:55, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone else criticized the ecchi fanservice in the movie or the proposed show in general? Sure, I've expanded quote from that GameRadar article, but I obviously can't abuse that without regard to the significance of opinion. So I'm wondering if there are other materials about this? Solaire the knight (talk) 16:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen any other criticism of it, no. This is why I thought it was best to note it only in a single sentence at the end of the section, as (currently) an outlier opinion. I think the perspective having its short two sentences (the extra sentence you added is good) next to the three paragraphs covering the general consensus of the other reviewers properly weights that opinion. As it stands, I don't think we need to go into too much more detail on it, although that could change if when the series starts properly airing more people bring it up. silviaASH (inquire within) 21:15, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added a little extra details from the source to clarify the nuance of her opinion. I think it should be good for now. silviaASH (inquire within) 21:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As it stands, this is currently a long paragraph of 141 words, almost 20% of the entire reception section. As this isn't proportionate to how significant the view is (only based on one critic's opinion while there is quite a lot of coverage), wouldn't it go against NPOV as it stands now? Unless more reliable sources have brought it up in the meantime. DarkeruTomoe (talk) 18:32, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's why I made this thread. It seems like an interesting take, but I don't want to go overboard with it. Solaire the knight (talk) 18:53, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if this is a movie poster or a poster for the anime as a whole. At least it's the one that's being used as the main poster on the show's anime resources now. But I don't mind uploading a new image if it changes by the time the series starts. Solaire the knight (talk) 12:52, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since this article is about the anime as a whole, and not just the compilation film, I think it's best to have the choice of image represent that. I think the new key visual is better for our purposes, generally, since it's for the series as a whole and also has the main character more centrally featured. Of course if better visuals become available later, we can choose another one. silviaASH (inquire within) 13:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure that the simple Machu artwork is good enough for us, but it's not worth arguing about a couple of weeks before the premiere. Solaire the knight (talk) 15:03, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm not saying it's perfect, I just think it's the best option out of the three visuals that are currently available. When we have more options I'll definitely be open to a discussion about which choice of visual is most ideal, if it should be necessary. silviaASH (inquire within) 15:26, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]